Comments on: OPS’s Are Bigger in Texas http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/ Where Bad Contracts Go to Die Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:03:54 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Joe http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-15 Joe Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:03:38 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-15 More specifically I mean in the final years of a big cotnract (if Tex gets 6 or 7 years, the last two years or so could be annoying). More specifically I mean in the final years of a big cotnract (if Tex gets 6 or 7 years, the last two years or so could be annoying).

]]> By: Joe http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-14 Joe Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:02:50 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-14 I agree with your spending philosophy for the offseason, but then we could end up with a logjam; i.e. a player who isn't really that great anymore, paying him big bucks, and being forced to pencil him in the lineup everyday. Giambi was like this a little bit but has rebounded. I agree with your spending philosophy for the offseason, but then we could end up with a logjam; i.e. a player who isn’t really that great anymore, paying him big bucks, and being forced to pencil him in the lineup everyday. Giambi was like this a little bit but has rebounded.

]]> By: RollingWave http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-13 RollingWave Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:35:57 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-13 But Joe, the point is that the Yankees have more money than several low payroll teams combined comming off the books this year. and it's unlikely that they cut their payroll drastically. so if they have 70-80M per to burn in the off season market. I don't see why they can't just sign every one they feel interested in. For example CC + Teix + Manny even if you give all 3 of them 20 per, your still SHEDDING payroll. But Joe, the point is that the Yankees have more money than several low payroll teams combined comming off the books this year. and it’s unlikely that they cut their payroll drastically. so if they have 70-80M per to burn in the off season market. I don’t see why they can’t just sign every one they feel interested in.

For example

CC + Teix + Manny

even if you give all 3 of them 20 per, your still SHEDDING payroll.

]]> By: Joe http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-12 Joe Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:44:11 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-12 Ditto Jamal. Ditto Jamal.

]]> By: Joe http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-11 Joe Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:43:36 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-11 BTW I appreciate the interest in the blog RollingWave! Haha thanks for checking it out. I might want to collaborate with any other River Ave veterans, send me an email from the Contact page at the top right of the links box. BTW I appreciate the interest in the blog RollingWave! Haha thanks for checking it out. I might want to collaborate with any other River Ave veterans, send me an email from the Contact page at the top right of the links box.

]]> By: salarydump http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-10 salarydump Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:33:59 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-10 And let's not forget about Jorge, he may end up at 1B, for good or nil. And let’s not forget about Jorge, he may end up at 1B, for good or nil.

]]> By: salarydump http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-9 salarydump Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:33:33 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-9 All in all I think we're better off toughing it out at 1B and spending our money on OF or starting pitching. I mean, you can struggle to the postseason with a great pitching staff and a lousy offense, not the other way around (2007 Phillies nonwithstanding). If the brass decided one big contract was to be added, I vote CC. He gives us a better chance at number 27, IMO. All in all I think we’re better off toughing it out at 1B and spending our money on OF or starting pitching. I mean, you can struggle to the postseason with a great pitching staff and a lousy offense, not the other way around (2007 Phillies nonwithstanding).

If the brass decided one big contract was to be added, I vote CC. He gives us a better chance at number 27, IMO.

]]> By: RollingWave http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-8 RollingWave Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:24:31 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-8 The problem is that while it may seem deep, very few of those guys are truely consistently good on a year to year bases Giambi was terrible and hurt last year, Conor Jackson missed about a month last year and until this year was a below average 1B (he's young though. and isn't a FA until 2 more seasons unless i'm mistaken) guys like Gonzalez / Fielder / Howard won't become avalible for a loooong while (if ever) Your choices going foward involve Tiex vs the likes of Giambi and Delgado, unless you think you can develope a 1B soon (unlikely, Miranda can't hit lefty and E.Duncan simply can't hit. even if Montero is a 1B there is at least 4+ season before he's a legit major league hitter). I can understand your logic, but putting a lot of doe on a 1B still makes more sense than doing the same on... say a pitcher. The problem is that while it may seem deep, very few of those guys are truely consistently good on a year to year bases

Giambi was terrible and hurt last year, Conor Jackson missed about a month last year and until this year was a below average 1B (he’s young though. and isn’t a FA until 2 more seasons unless i’m mistaken) guys like Gonzalez / Fielder / Howard won’t become avalible for a loooong while (if ever)

Your choices going foward involve Tiex vs the likes of Giambi and Delgado, unless you think you can develope a 1B soon (unlikely, Miranda can’t hit lefty and E.Duncan simply can’t hit. even if Montero is a 1B there is at least 4+ season before he’s a legit major league hitter).

I can understand your logic, but putting a lot of doe on a 1B still makes more sense than doing the same on… say a pitcher.

]]> By: salarydump http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-7 salarydump Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:14:40 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-7 Maybe I'm just being old fashioned but I don't believe in wasting money on a position that is deep on every team in baseball, the cold corner. I mean, who doesn't have a power bat with limited defensive ability (i.e. unable to play middle infield or something). That's why Milwaukee didn't care about LaPorta that much, I think. As a rule I wouldn't sign first basemen to contracts unless they were to buy out arb years or extensions or what have you. It's the easiest position to fill, the stars are only so much better than the average ones. Maybe I’m just being old fashioned but I don’t believe in wasting money on a position that is deep on every team in baseball, the cold corner. I mean, who doesn’t have a power bat with limited defensive ability (i.e. unable to play middle infield or something). That’s why Milwaukee didn’t care about LaPorta that much, I think.

As a rule I wouldn’t sign first basemen to contracts unless they were to buy out arb years or extensions or what have you. It’s the easiest position to fill, the stars are only so much better than the average ones.

]]> By: RollingWave http://salarydump.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/opss-are-bigger-in-texas/#comment-6 RollingWave Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:11:01 +0000 http://salarydump.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-6 Joe, then we must consider this, Giambi is almost as likely to have another 04/07 run then a 05/06/08 run going foward. and even if he doesn't, he's good for maybe 2 more season at best. (and either way he's glove sucks) who will you look for after this? The prospect of having 1 year of the Kevin Millar style or bad Giambi junks of the world will hurt a perinial contending team more than the prospect of saving some marginal values by going short terms. As for Youkilis, his career OPS+ is below average for a 1Bman, but consideirng that it's OBP driven and he's got a pretty good glove that might make him slightly above average. remember that he's not exactly very young either. and before you point to his stats this year. remember this. Career pre / post break splits Pre: 308 /.400 /.495 Post: 245 /.352 /.390 If he follow this trend he'll probably end this year somewhere in the 120s OPS+ . which is pretty solid, but that's about it for him. Joe, then we must consider this, Giambi is almost as likely to have another 04/07 run then a 05/06/08 run going foward. and even if he doesn’t, he’s good for maybe 2 more season at best. (and either way he’s glove sucks) who will you look for after this?

The prospect of having 1 year of the Kevin Millar style or bad Giambi junks of the world will hurt a perinial contending team more than the prospect of saving some marginal values by going short terms.

As for Youkilis, his career OPS+ is below average for a 1Bman, but consideirng that it’s OBP driven and he’s got a pretty good glove that might make him slightly above average. remember that he’s not exactly very young either. and before you point to his stats this year. remember this.

Career pre / post break splits

Pre: 308 /.400 /.495

Post: 245 /.352 /.390

If he follow this trend he’ll probably end this year somewhere in the 120s OPS+ . which is pretty solid, but that’s about it for him.

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